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North Korea Wins Again

Postby MarkWill » Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:45 am

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North Korea's only legitimate weapon: threats.
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Re: North Korea Wins Again

Postby CanadianEh » Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:01 am

MarkWill wrote:http://www.politico.com/story/2014/12/sony-north-korea-the-interview-113655.html?hp=l2_4

North Korea's only legitimate weapon: threats.

They have canceled many showings in Canada too.
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Re: North Korea Wins Again

Postby Amazeroth » Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:24 am

It's still hard to believe the cowardice of Sony/the cinemas that decided not to show it. What did they think the hackers would be able to do to them?
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Re: North Korea Wins Again

Postby soysauce » Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:06 pm

I think Sony are the people that won here, by all accounts this was a fairly shit comedy film anyway, because of this they have got a lot more publicity and when they do eventually release it everyone will want it simply because it's the film that North Korea wanted banned.

But for North Korea this film is potentially damaging. American and European films and TV shows over there are about as common as weed on the streets of london, this film would be no exception, people who watched it would probably have some questions and as ever questions in North Korea aren't good. The chances are that Pyongyang would aggressively surpress the film which would cause chaos within the relatively powerful middle class, they're already having to buy in computers and TVs from the west to keep these guys happy so killing some of them for owning the wrong DVD might bring things to a head.
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Re: North Korea Wins Again

Postby MarkWill » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:01 pm

I've never really thought about the film being shown in North Korea because I'm not certain how such things could ever enter the country in the first place, but in this case, regardless of whether it was North Korea who committed the act, they're getting the attention they so desire.

I agree that they should've shown the film regardless. These are merely threats.
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Re: North Korea Wins Again

Postby PaleRider » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:25 pm

Amazeroth wrote:It's still hard to believe the cowardice of Sony/the cinemas that decided not to show it. What did they think the hackers would be able to do to them?

They really had no choice since all the major theatre chains pulled out of showing it. However the moment it comes out I'm going to see it just to stick it to NK.
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Re: North Korea Wins Again

Postby CanadianEh » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:53 pm

MarkWill wrote:I've never really thought about the film being shown in North Korea because I'm not certain how such things could ever enter the country in the first place, but in this case, regardless of whether it was North Korea who committed the act, they're getting the attention they so desire.

I agree that they should've shown the film regardless. These are merely threats.

Yes I agree, I'm pretty sure no North Korea would be able to watch the movie.
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Re: North Korea Wins Again

Postby Afrocentric » Mon Dec 22, 2014 6:31 pm

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Re: North Korea Wins Again

Postby Amazeroth » Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:04 pm

PaleRider wrote:
Amazeroth wrote:It's still hard to believe the cowardice of Sony/the cinemas that decided not to show it. What did they think the hackers would be able to do to them?

They really had no choice since all the major theatre chains pulled out of showing it. However the moment it comes out I'm going to see it just to stick it to NK.


I've heard that too, but in this cause the major chains are the cowards. Even more than Sony - Sony could actually suffer from hacker attacks, but major theatre chains would have a lot less to fear.

soysauce wrote:I think Sony are the people that won here, by all accounts this was a fairly shit comedy film anyway, because of this they have got a lot more publicity and when they do eventually release it everyone will want it simply because it's the film that North Korea wanted banned.

But for North Korea this film is potentially damaging. American and European films and TV shows over there are about as common as weed on the streets of london, this film would be no exception, people who watched it would probably have some questions and as ever questions in North Korea aren't good. The chances are that Pyongyang would aggressively surpress the film which would cause chaos within the relatively powerful middle class, they're already having to buy in computers and TVs from the west to keep these guys happy so killing some of them for owning the wrong DVD might bring things to a head.


I'd really be surprised if anyone in North Korea would have been able to watch the film. I've never heard that there was any kind of successful smuggling of Western goods into NK, so I'd be genuinely interested where you got that from.
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Re: North Korea Wins Again

Postby Siggon Kristov » Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:13 pm

Amazeroth wrote:I'd really be surprised if anyone in North Korea would have been able to watch the film. I've never heard that there was any kind of successful smuggling of Western goods into NK, so I'd be genuinely interested where you got that from.

I have actually heard of such a story by a defector who is now in South Korea (he wants to return, but he did admit the bad stuff).
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It's not like a film that targets a generic "President of the USA" that has a different name in the film than in real life, and it's not like a film that is about a President who was actually assassinated already. It's a film about the assassination of a specific and real individual. I don't think any leader (or person) would be comfortable having such a film about them, unless it glorified them in some way. If we made a film about assassinating Obama, we would probably end up as the subjects of investigation.
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