North Korea Wins Again

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Re: North Korea Wins Again

Postby MarkWill » Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:30 pm

Perhaps it is the culmination of a feeling felt around the world where Kim Jong Un just isn't taken seriously. Obviously, it was enough to make a comedy out of his death. Regardless, I have never cared much for the media or entertainment industry, so I don't take these things seriously. A move about the death of Kim Jong Un? All right; release it, and in a few years, people will have forgotten the movie. It's not a big deal.
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Re: North Korea Wins Again

Postby MichaelReilly » Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:53 pm

ALL HAIL GLORIOUS SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN

Decadent Western imperialist capitalists have been defeated in face of the glory of the superior Juche system. All comrades, including supreme comrade Kim Jong-Un and Eternal President Kim Il-Sung continue to march for glorious reunification of Korea and defeat American and Japanese aggressors.

There is no famine, only self-reliance. Onwards to socialism and Juche!
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Re: North Korea Wins Again

Postby soysauce » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:05 pm

Yeah, the black market in North Korea is surprisingly large, it was completely sealed off until the 90s but since the economy collapsed they've had to change. Since they can't actually produce anything legal worth selling to get foreign currency they've had to move into some fairly unpleasant and/or illegal lines of buisness, primarily weapons, meth, heroin and selling women into prostitution. Most black market material is brought in by the agents that trade across the border who know what it's like on the other side and want in on it.

Once it's in the country there's no stopping it, even in 60 years of the most horiffic regime imaginable you can't wipe human nature out of the population. A large proportion of the population are willing to watch western films and TV, just imagine what they might think when they realise that it's not as dangerous as the government tells them it is.
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Re: North Korea Wins Again

Postby Amazeroth » Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:53 pm

soysauce wrote:Yeah, the black market in North Korea is surprisingly large, it was completely sealed off until the 90s but since the economy collapsed they've had to change. Since they can't actually produce anything legal worth selling to get foreign currency they've had to move into some fairly unpleasant and/or illegal lines of buisness, primarily weapons, meth, heroin and selling women into prostitution. Most black market material is brought in by the agents that trade across the border who know what it's like on the other side and want in on it.

Once it's in the country there's no stopping it, even in 60 years of the most horiffic regime imaginable you can't wipe human nature out of the population. A large proportion of the population are willing to watch western films and TV, just imagine what they might think when they realise that it's not as dangerous as the government tells them it is.


Interesting to know about the black market - but then I'd be more worried about films that actually show how life in the West really is like (which would be most films, of course), than one that makes fun of their leader. I think that would be just as easy to explain as anti-North-Korean propaganda as the rest.
Also, while they (apparently) can keep it out of the cinemas for some time, they won't be able to stop the release, so the film will come to NK just like any other film would.
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Re: North Korea Wins Again

Postby soysauce » Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:20 pm

For many watching these films is almost an act of rebellion against the regime, while watching things like Cinderella and Titanic might have some symbolic importance to whoever is watching them it's not that bad. South Korean soaps showing a high quality of life might raise questions you can pass that off as propaganda quite easily, indeed North Korea do that on their own TV shows.

But if people who probably don't see eye to eye with the regime watch films that mock their leaders then maybe they might too. It doesn't sound like much but if that film got into North Korea (which America will ensure it will) then you'll have a generation of young Koreans who instead of watching shit soaps will be watching their leader being mocked with their mates. On its own it's not that big a deal, you can publically execute a few people to keep the rest down; but with more and more of this sort of stuff coming through the cult of personality they've spent 50 years building up might start to crumple.
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Re: North Korea Wins Again

Postby Amazeroth » Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:27 pm

soysauce wrote:For many watching these films is almost an act of rebellion against the regime, while watching things like Cinderella and Titanic might have some symbolic importance to whoever is watching them it's not that bad. South Korean soaps showing a high quality of life might raise questions you can pass that off as propaganda quite easily, indeed North Korea do that on their own TV shows.

But if people who probably don't see eye to eye with the regime watch films that mock their leaders then maybe they might too. It doesn't sound like much but if that film got into North Korea (which America will ensure it will) then you'll have a generation of young Koreans who instead of watching shit soaps will be watching their leader being mocked with their mates. On its own it's not that big a deal, you can publically execute a few people to keep the rest down; but with more and more of this sort of stuff coming through the cult of personality they've spent 50 years building up might start to crumple.



Maybe. Although with Team America, that should have happened already.
Oh well, let's just hope they crumble fast and soon.
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Re: North Korea Wins Again

Postby soysauce » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:43 am

Amazeroth wrote:
soysauce wrote:For many watching these films is almost an act of rebellion against the regime, while watching things like Cinderella and Titanic might have some symbolic importance to whoever is watching them it's not that bad. South Korean soaps showing a high quality of life might raise questions you can pass that off as propaganda quite easily, indeed North Korea do that on their own TV shows.

But if people who probably don't see eye to eye with the regime watch films that mock their leaders then maybe they might too. It doesn't sound like much but if that film got into North Korea (which America will ensure it will) then you'll have a generation of young Koreans who instead of watching shit soaps will be watching their leader being mocked with their mates. On its own it's not that big a deal, you can publically execute a few people to keep the rest down; but with more and more of this sort of stuff coming through the cult of personality they've spent 50 years building up might start to crumple.



Maybe. Although with Team America, that should have happened already.
Oh well, let's just hope they crumble fast and soon.

Yeah, the risk is small but if you're the most agreasive and brutal regime in the world you just don't take chances like that.

Anyway, hopefully it'll work
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Re: North Korea Wins Again

Postby CanadianEh » Mon Dec 29, 2014 1:50 am

MichaelReilly wrote:ALL HAIL GLORIOUS SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN

Decadent Western imperialist capitalists have been defeated in face of the glory of the superior Juche system. All comrades, including supreme comrade Kim Jong-Un and Eternal President Kim Il-Sung continue to march for glorious reunification of Korea and defeat American and Japanese aggressors.

There is no famine, only self-reliance. Onwards to socialism and Juche!

Um ok?
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