Republican 2016 Presidential field

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If the Republican Primary was held today who would you vote for

Paul Ryan
0
No votes
Jeb Bush
3
27%
Mitt Romney
1
9%
Ted Cruz
2
18%
Dr. Ben Carson
0
No votes
Mike Huckabee
0
No votes
Chris Christie
2
18%
Ran Paul
3
27%
 
Total votes : 11

Re: Republican 2016 Presidential field

Postby Batman337 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:23 am

Darkylightytwo wrote:
Afrocentric wrote:
Darkylightytwo wrote:even if you put a gun my head, I would never vote for a republican. I just hope this bad party get destroyed, so we can rebuild another, way better.


No offense, but the last part of you statement is very ignorant and shows a lack of maturity.


I am realist, some kind of religious idiots are running the republican party right now.
Of all war-loving nation, America is the only one who lower the taxes before going to war, all others nations rise them before going to war.
and America don't care about their dollar because foreigner are too buzy playing hot patato with them.

but that is off topic.

the republican party is not party of freedom, just a party of the uterus.
it is a sad reality for you, but its time has passed, it need to go.

How are Republicans the Party of Uteruses when the Democrats keep pushing their "pro-choice" agenda
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Re: Republican 2016 Presidential field

Postby Darkylightytwo » Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:54 am

Batman337 wrote:
Darkylightytwo wrote:
Afrocentric wrote:
No offense, but the last part of you statement is very ignorant and shows a lack of maturity.


I am realist, some kind of religious idiots are running the republican party right now.
Of all war-loving nation, America is the only one who lower the taxes before going to war, all others nations rise them before going to war.
and America don't care about their dollar because foreigner are too buzy playing hot patato with them.

but that is off topic.

the republican party is not party of freedom, just a party of the uterus.
it is a sad reality for you, but its time has passed, it need to go.

How are Republicans the Party of Uteruses when the Democrats keep pushing their "pro-choice" agenda


What is wrong about being pro-choice, these people are simply arguing that women have the right to decide what is good for themselves. and woman should not forced to be mothers, women have the right to decide when they have child, how many child they want to have and with who they want to have it.

When the republican are trying to stop women from having of their own body,

what if sudden, democrats pass a that forbid from masturbating because you are man, I am certain you will protest and say : Hey, that is my organ, let me do what I with my sexual organs..... Pro-choice is the same logic. so get lost.

and while we are at it, I am certainly pro-life, (because I think anti-malthusianism is bad.) and I am also very realist, if you could stop abortion by outlawing, I would go for it, but the truth and the fact are not with you, you cannot stop abortion by outlawing it, you are endangering the women who pratice it.
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Re: Republican 2016 Presidential field

Postby CanadianEh » Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:53 pm

Darkylightytwo wrote:even if you put a gun my head, I would never vote for a republican. I just hope this bad party get destroyed, so we can rebuild another, way better.

Your essentially discarding political freedom since you say you want the party destroyed. Believe me Communism is not the best ideology either take the Soviet Union and North Korea as two examples. Communism is a weak ideology that requires a dictatorship for it to stay stable and it kills thousands of innocent people, Stalin's Soviet Union was a killing machine that destroyed the lives of many people, Communism will take everything away from EVERBODY not just the rich it takes from the poor too only to the benefit of the state, and don't even get me started on North Korea. If you are a true Communist you believe in all of the power to the state be it Civil Rights and Freedom and the Economy. If you are a true Communist you will believe in these things and support these actions (I don't think you do). I think you are more of a Liberal Socialist.
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Re: Republican 2016 Presidential field

Postby Darkylightytwo » Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:09 pm

CanadianEh wrote:
Darkylightytwo wrote:even if you put a gun my head, I would never vote for a republican. I just hope this bad party get destroyed, so we can rebuild another, way better.

Your essentially discarding political freedom since you say you want the party destroyed. Believe me Communism is not the best ideology either take the Soviet Union and North Korea as two examples. Communism is a weak ideology that requires a dictatorship for it to stay stable and it kills thousands of innocent people, Stalin's Soviet Union was a killing machine that destroyed the lives of many people, Communism will take everything away from EVERBODY not just the rich it takes from the poor too only to the benefit of the state, and don't even get me started on North Korea. If you are a true Communist you believe in all of the power to the state be it Civil Rights and Freedom and the Economy. If you are a true Communist you will believe in these things and support these actions (I don't think you do). I think you are more of a Liberal Socialist.


Find me another solution for the GOP problem, but I don't see another, the party has fallen to such low, that only destruction is seen, after people will have all time they want to organisation new center-right wing party.

As I said, names for me means nothing. I don't accept pre-made theory as basis of my own theory, because when you agree to pre-made theory, you just close your eyes on reality. this is juts like those who accept religious doctrine without any question, they hide reality, because alienation is not just economic, it is link to the mind. when you can only think based on a theory and are unable to question, you are clearly victim of alienation : (this was from Heidegger's theories, another source of alienation. )
Names nothing, call it what eve you wants, socialist, democratic people's republic, communist, tyrannie, dictatorship, nazism, we are talking about the same system.
We all know that this argument is your conclusion of what is a communism system.

The system I life to believe indeed abolish private property, it does not abolish personal property...

And while we are at it, having people who don't believe in science as politicians getting elected, make bad reputation for democracy...
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Re: Republican 2016 Presidential field

Postby Batman337 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:34 pm

You seem to think a party which no one likes any more (Democrats) are perfect. Where they have raised taxes, increase unemployment, and the national debit.
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Re: Republican 2016 Presidential field

Postby Darkylightytwo » Sat Mar 14, 2015 9:01 pm

Batman337 wrote:You seem to think a party which no one likes any more (Democrats) are perfect. Where they have raised taxes, increase unemployment, and the national debit.


I never said they are perfect, but you get as low as the GOP is right now, sorry. National debt was just there to feed itself, not like anyone can control it now.
Among all nations who love war, America is the only one who lower taxes before going to war. A perfect non-sense. sorry.
then you take account fiscal evasion, high police spending, cost of prison and of death penalty. and you got perfect logic why you are in debt.

in contrast, taxes should be higher, government should crack on tax evasion instead of cracking on nudity and marijuana.
instead of wasting your money on death penalty, you should focus on rehabilitation and have maximal sentence of 25 Years, try to make the less use possible of the death penalty.
Before going to war, you must raise the taxes : hey guys, we are going to defend the nation, so we will need to raise taxes a bit.

and when I see this : http://www.forwardprogressives.com/ted- ... ing-video/ Sorry, but the fact are present, and the GOP has to go I value political freedom, but those who believe that god has created mankind or that slavery is the will of the god and natural... they have no place here. we have no place for religious preachers.
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Re: Republican 2016 Presidential field

Postby CanadianEh » Sat Mar 14, 2015 9:09 pm

DarkyLighty, personal property is private property that is like the exact definition.

Batman337 wrote:You seem to think a party which no one likes any more (Democrats) are perfect. Where they have raised taxes, increase unemployment, and the national debit.

:lol: that a little funny!
Seeing that Hilary Clinton (A Democrat) is currently beating all Republican Presidential candidates by quite a few points, the only reason why the Republicans won mid terms is because they did not talk about their anti-immigration, anti-gay, anti-innocent crime etc. social policy, if they had of theybwoukd have lost.
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Re: Republican 2016 Presidential field

Postby Darkylightytwo » Sat Mar 14, 2015 9:18 pm

CanadianEh wrote:DarkyLighty, personal property is private property that is like the exact definition.

Batman337 wrote:You seem to think a party which no one likes any more (Democrats) are perfect. Where they have raised taxes, increase unemployment, and the national debit.

:lol: that a little funny!
Seeing that Hilary Clinton (A Democrat) is currently beating all Republican Presidential candidates by quite a few points, the only reason why the Republicans won mid terms is because they did not talk about their anti-immigration, anti-gay, anti-innocent crime etc. social policy, if they had of theybwoukd have lost.


1 Personal property introduce no strength rapport. ( so a a dog can't be property.) Private property introduce strength rapport between several factions, it is useless relevant to the means of production, industries. the big-business is private property, while your computer is a personal property with many public property inside, and some private property, because you don't own windows. you see in a computer there is
Personal property, : the computer, your files, your pictures, all thing that belong to you
Private property : Windows
Public Property : all open-source software including Linux, Firefox and etc.

But in all, it is more complexe. a lot more.

2 the reason because republican won the midterm is because electorate that are mostly favorable to the democrats, did not vote, and that is the way it is in all midterms, electoral participation is always lower by 20% in the mid-terms then in the presidential. this is a known factor and I believe there are actually statistics on that subjects. remember seeing them on a board show in class.
on 2012, they won the lower-house because of bad distribution of seats, winning most seats with the less votes.
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Re: Republican 2016 Presidential field

Postby Afrocentric » Sun Mar 15, 2015 1:28 am

No, the GOP won because the demos were in their favor AND the incumbent president is not popular at all. The Democrats could've had Jesus Christ running the DNC and they still would have lost.
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Re: Republican 2016 Presidential field

Postby Batman337 » Sun Mar 15, 2015 2:06 am

Afrocentric wrote:No, the GOP won because the demos were in their favor AND the incumbent president is not popular at all. The Democrats could've had Jesus Christ running the DNC and they still would have lost.

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