Should Palestine become it's own country?

[SelucianCrusader]

Anyways, even if there would be a civil war, let them duke it out.

How humane..

"Palestine" was created through ethnic cleansing of Jews. Israel should never evacuate the West Bank, we see how that turned out with Gaza. Instead, those who hate Jews and freedom should evacuate to somewhere else. No more cuddling.

Sorry, but the Kosovo was recognized as a country by the international community, with the leadership of the U.S. .

I used to be pro-Serb as well until I read up about what Milosevic did and the history of the area. Albanians lived in the area well before there were any Slavs in that part of Europe. The Serbs have all the right in the world to live there with the same rights as everybody else, and it's a good thing that the Kosovoan state rejects all forms of religious or ethnic nationalism. However they also have the right to chose their own destiny and not be dominated by another country.

[Darkylightytwo]

Sorry, but the Kosovo was recognized as a country by the international community, with the leadership of the U.S. .

I used to be pro-Serb as well until I read up about what Milosevic did and the history of the area. Albanians lived in the area well before there were any Slavs in that part of Europe. The Serbs have all the right in the world to live there with the same rights as everybody else, and it's a good thing that the Kosovoan state rejects all forms of religious or ethnic nationalism. However they also have the right to chose their own destiny and not be dominated by another country.[/quote]


I do not support Serbia, we are not talking about the rights of Kosovians to determine their own destiny, which I approve, we are talking about the corruption in the state.
and Serb where not the only to killed peoples but, they did the worse part and were correctly punished for it.
But maybe we could have cleaned up a little in Kosovo before recognizing its independance. We should not recognize a country run by a mafia.

[CanadianEh]

I do not support Serbia, we are not talking about the rights of Kosovians to determine their own destiny, which I approve, we are talking about the corruption in the state.
and Serb where not the only to killed peoples but, they did the worse part and were correctly punished for it.
But maybe we could have cleaned up a little in Kosovo before recognizing its independance. We should not recognize a country run by a mafia.

If you are reffering to Serbia, that's a stance I hope no one else takes because it's fairly inaccurate, cruel and misguided. The Serbian mafia is big yes, but we should not just un-recognize a nation's existence because they have a strong criminal presence, we should support what little government they have. Additionally, Serbia is not run by the mafia, it's still a first world country with a functioning government, I have a friend that used to go to school there.

[Kubrick]

Anyways, even if there would be a civil war, let them duke it out.

How humane..

"Palestine" was created through ethnic cleansing of Jews. Israel should never evacuate the West Bank, we see how that turned out with Gaza. Instead, those who hate Jews and freedom should evacuate to somewhere else. No more cuddling.

Because ethnic cleansing should always be the answer to ethnic cleansing. If Western powers involve themselves in any Palestinian struggles you will get Iraqi affairs, since Iraq seems to be doing absolutely great at the moment. The US really left a stable and well trained army to defend that bastion of democracy.

[PaleRider]

http://ow.ly/P7gLz

quite the piece

[Darkylightytwo]

I do not support Serbia, we are not talking about the rights of Kosovians to determine their own destiny, which I approve, we are talking about the corruption in the state.
and Serb where not the only to killed peoples but, they did the worse part and were correctly punished for it.
But maybe we could have cleaned up a little in Kosovo before recognizing its independance. We should not recognize a country run by a mafia.

If you are reffering to Serbia, that's a stance I hope no one else takes because it's fairly inaccurate, cruel and misguided. The Serbian mafia is big yes, but we should not just un-recognize a nation's existence because they have a strong criminal presence, we should support what little government they have. Additionally, Serbia is not run by the mafia, it's still a first world country with a functioning government, I have a friend that used to go to school there.

I don't remember saying Serbia was run by the mafia.
I post Argument on Kosovo and its Mafia. not Serbia
And I storngly say that what ever crimes the kosovians committed to serbs, does not justify what the serb has done to kosovians, it was just an excse, even if those crimes did happen. you can't fix a wrong with a wrong.

[MichaelReilly]

SelCru, your knowledge of the history of Israel and Palestine is disturbingly small, and seems to entirely been gained from far-right Israeli nationalist revisionist history books.

And what's perhaps even more objectionable is that your support of Israel is in essence based on nothing else other than racism and cultural superiority. Israel deserves precedence because they are culturally, historically and ethnically superior. You believe the Jews to be a superior people to the Arabs. That's ultimately what your entire basis of your views of the conflict always seems to boil down to. The State of Israel deserves to exist and continue to occupy Arab land simply because they are a better people, and those barbaric Arabs are incapable of governing themselves.

[Siggon Kristov]

SelCru, your knowledge of the history of Israel and Palestine is disturbingly small, and seems to entirely been gained from far-right Israeli nationalist revisionist history books.

And what's perhaps even more objectionable is that your support of Israel is in essence based on nothing else other than racism and cultural superiority. Israel deserves precedence because they are culturally, historically and ethnically superior. You believe the Jews to be a superior people to the Arabs. That's ultimately what your entire basis of your views of the conflict always seems to boil down to. The State of Israel deserves to exist and continue to occupy Arab land simply because they are a better people, and those barbaric Arabs are incapable of governing themselves.

I endorse this post.
I also commend your ability to deal with right-wingers like SelCru diplomatically.

[Aquinas]

Just a gentle reminder: the Israel/Palestine controversy is a famously hot topic that arouses strong differences of opinion, so we all need to make an effort to ensure sure the discussion stays civil!

[MichaelReilly]

This is actually the most civil discussion this forum has witnessed on a contentious issue in a hell of a long time, boyo.