Autokrator15 wrote:You are making LGBT people as if they are different. Everyone needs to be able to practise his freedoms which are guerenteed by the constitution.
We don't have a universal constitution. There is no single constitution which governs the USA, UK, and Jamaica We all have different laws - so when talking about "freedoms which are guaranteed by the constitution" - research whether such freedoms really exist. LGBTQ+ people do not have freedoms guaranteed by the constitution in Jamaica. If a police officer suspects that a man may engage in sexual relations with another man in the future, the police officer can detain him.
Autokrator15 wrote:The school should make sure that violance against others is banned, that security secures everyones person and that critizism of homosexuality of conservatism or whatever topic can be peacefully discussed. I have seen many progressives and gays use violance against christians or conservatives who are peacefully stating their opinions. Safe spaces are one sided and dangerous to freedom.
Are you assuming that the school doesn't have rules that prohibit violence on campus? These rules are just on paper; they don't mean anything. If someone attacks you at night, and you can't identify the person, the school's rules can't help you. Even if there were police everywhere on campus 24/7, it wouldn't change anything for students who don't live on campus. When someone has to ride on the same bus, or walk on the same streets, with someone who he feels threatened by, the school can't really do much about it.
Also, this is not just about "criticism of homosexuality" - our existing laws against LGBTQ+ people are a form of violence/coercion. And you can go on about Christians or Conservatives "peacefully stating their opinions" but what exactly are these opinions? They are typically violent opinions, i.e. persons openly expressing that all LGBTQ+ people should be jailed or killed. When they kill LGBTQ+ people, they use religion to justify it.
Autokrator15 wrote:Siggon Kristov wrote:I have a lecturer who blamed "homosexuals" and "battymen" for the PNP's recent election loss. It was a pretty shitty claim. Many persons are talking about many different things that could have resulted in the JLP winning the election, however the election was so close that I don't think that anyone can prove their claims without doing research. Of course, someone couldn't argue against him, because merely defending LGBTQ+ people will get everyone to think that you're LGBTQ+, and then you have to start watching out for your own safety. I would have to watch out for my grade, because this specific class is one where 100% of the grade is from coursework, no exams. My name has to be on my papers.
This is no proof of the need of a safespace, this is proof that this idiot needs to be told to keep his trap shut, he is there to give unbiased and neutral lectures and should keep his views to himself. Also a teacher insulting a student or viceversa should be punished.
You're confusing me. On one hand, you're saying there is no need for the classroom to be treated as a safe space for students, and on the other hand you're calling for sanctions against persons who do things that would not be allowed in a safe space. In general, you keep talking about how there should be decency. When someone else proposes a measure, you argue that it limits free speech, yet a Jamaican would consider you to be limiting free speech by enforcing "decency" measures.
Autokrator15 wrote:Marginalised students should not be expected to debate what are often uncomfortable and/or triggering issues for the benefit of ‘free speech’.
This is sickening. You dont hear me chanting that I dont want to hear socialist ideas or progressive ideas because they trigger me? This whole trigger stuff is BS.
A rape victim suffering from PTSD is not BS. An LGBTQ+ person being bullied in school or being attacked, then being told in the future that LGBTQ+ persons deserve things like that, can cause discussion of certain issues to be triggering. Someone having mental health issues from bad memories/experiences, and having certain triggers, is not BS. I suggest you
read up more on the severity of triggers; triggers aren't about disagreement. LGBTQ+ youth, and other marginalised groups, are more vulnerable to mental health issues.