Jessaveryja wrote:Aquinas, want to explain why the LibDems are not doing better? They are at least nominally classical liberal.
Aquinas wrote:Jessaveryja wrote:Aquinas, want to explain why the LibDems are not doing better? They are at least nominally classical liberal.
The opinion poll ratings are still crap, but we are doing very well in terms of increasing party membership and winning council seat by-elections. My impression is that the vibe *within* the party is actually very good - better than it has been for a long time. Record numbers attended last month's party conference, for example.
Brexit has been a disappointment for most Lib Dems, but it has succeeded in uniting/energising the party...that's the vibe I pick up. Morale is good.
Right now, our big problem is probably the massive decline in media coverage since the General Election wipeout.
Also, apparently we don't have much money (oh well!).
At times, I half wish we were more like UKIP and had a few interesting scandals. As they say, bad publicity is better than no publicity...
Jessaveryja wrote:Aquinas, want to explain why the LibDems are not doing better? They are at least nominally classical liberal.
SelucianCrusader wrote:Jessaveryja wrote:Aquinas, want to explain why the LibDems are not doing better? They are at least nominally classical liberal.
Didn't the Libdems start as a merger of social democrats and liberals? In my world "classical liberal" is more like the great Milo Yiannopoulos (i. e. a libertarian who isn't as close to anarchism as a dogmatic libertarian) but I'm not sure everybody agrees.
Aquinas wrote:Jessaveryja wrote:Aquinas, want to explain why the LibDems are not doing better? They are at least nominally classical liberal.
The opinion poll ratings are still crap, but we are doing very well in terms of increasing party membership and winning council seat by-elections. My impression is that the vibe *within* the party is actually very good - better than it has been for a long time. Record numbers attended last month's party conference, for example.
Brexit has been a disappointment for most Lib Dems, but it has succeeded in uniting/energising the party...that's the vibe I pick up. Morale is good.
Jessaveryja wrote:While I enjoy a good firing squad for a violent criminal, I do not think it is a good substitute for democracy when debating political rivals.
Aquinas, want to explain why the LibDems are not doing better? They are at least nominally classical liberal.
Autokrator15 wrote:Jessaveryja wrote:While I enjoy a good firing squad for a violent criminal, I do not think it is a good substitute for democracy when debating political rivals.
Aquinas, want to explain why the LibDems are not doing better? They are at least nominally classical liberal.
The LibDems? Classical Liberal?! My arse! I am classical liberal and let me tell you I disagree with ALOT of LibDem viewpoints. Yes they have a lot of good ideas too and they are liberal, I will give you that, but way too statist to be Classical-Liberal.
Reddy wrote:Autokrator15 wrote:Jessaveryja wrote:While I enjoy a good firing squad for a violent criminal, I do not think it is a good substitute for democracy when debating political rivals.
Aquinas, want to explain why the LibDems are not doing better? They are at least nominally classical liberal.
The LibDems? Classical Liberal?! My arse! I am classical liberal and let me tell you I disagree with ALOT of LibDem viewpoints. Yes they have a lot of good ideas too and they are liberal, I will give you that, but way too statist to be Classical-Liberal.
Many of the Orange Bookers (the classical liberal faction) have views similar to yours, Autokrator on economic and social views. People like David Laws and Nick Clegg (once) From I've seen, the establishment tends to be centre to centre-right on economics while the base is somewhere between left populist and centre left.
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