Particracy Forum

Launched in response to the US Presidents thread. I thought I'd see what your opinions are, and what your opinion of what 'greatest' actually means. The number I could enter is limited, so I skipped pre-war ones, the previous 3 PMs and some other's who I felt nobody would actually vote for.

I voted Churchill for his wartime leadership. If I had been allowed a second vote, it would have gone to Attlee.

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You know, I honestly don't know. The correct leftist thing nowadays is to glorify Attlee as the great anti-Thatcher but he isn't really that remarkable of a individual, though maybe that was part of his appeal, he was something of a everyman despite having a quite elite background. I'm not really sure you can point to a certain element of his premiership that is uniquely a result of his inspired leadership, rather than a collective achievement of the movement. Perhaps that's what a really good socialist leader should be...

I also find it a bit odd that Churchill is always getting tops for being a war leader but Lloyd George is basically forgotten in popular memory, even with the recent fad for all things World War One. Probably something to do with the Nazis being a more convincing enemy than Kaiser Bill.

Attlee didnt revert the war time economic meassures and used them for his socialist vision.

I voted Churchill. A hero who's contributions to Britain are unmeassurable. Though Margaret Thatcher would be my second vote for her economic liberal policies and making Britain stronger whilest ending the choking grib the Unions had on the government and the countries economy.

Churchill, for his leadership during the war. And his many witty quotes.

Thatcher is overrated IMO. Yes, she did close down some inefficient industries and push through some brutal and unpopular yet necessary economic reforms, and she did talk about climate change before it was mainstream. But she also set in motion the housing price carousel and generally facilitated a cancerous growth of the unproductive financial sector that is eating up the productive economy. She replaced one unsustainable system with another unsustainable system. She was probably the most effective destroyer of family values and other traditional values. I don't get why so many who consider themselves conservatives idolize her.

Hrafn wrote:Churchill, for his leadership during the war. And his many witty quotes.

Thatcher is overrated IMO. She was probably the most effective destroyer of family values and other traditional values. I don't get why so many who consider themselves conservatives idolize her.

I disagee. Though I'm a liberal so i prefer individualism and not family values. I also liked her hatred for socialism.