UK General Election, 2017

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Who would/will you vote for in the UK general election on the 8th June?

Conservative Party
14
30%
Labour Party
16
35%
Liberal Democrats
6
13%
Green Party
1
2%
UK Independence Party
4
9%
Scottish National Party
3
7%
Plaid Cymru
1
2%
Other (please specify)
1
2%
 
Total votes : 46

Re: UK General Election, 2017

Postby Adithya » Mon May 22, 2017 4:22 pm

I think that was a great manifesto when compared to the Tories one,I hope that the Labour continue to gain support.I don't agree with most of Corbyn"s Policies but he is the best choice for Britain in the current situation.
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Re: UK General Election, 2017

Postby Reddy » Mon May 22, 2017 4:47 pm

Adithya wrote:I think that was a great manifesto when compared to the Tories one,I hope that the Labour continue to gain support.I don't agree with most of Corbyn"s Policies but he is the best choice for Britain in the current situation.


Shame on you...traitor :D Just kidding of course.
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Re: UK General Election, 2017

Postby Adithya » Mon May 22, 2017 4:59 pm

Reddy wrote:
Adithya wrote:I think that was a great manifesto when compared to the Tories one,I hope that the Labour continue to gain support.I don't agree with most of Corbyn"s Policies but he is the best choice for Britain in the current situation.


Shame on you...traitor :D Just kidding of course.


:D :lol:
As a Internationalist Liberal,I find Theresa may too authoritarian and nationalist in her approach to issues and as the Lib Dems are also Faltering in polls,Labour is the natural choice.But i would love to see a more moderate leader who could expand the Labour Base even more.

But Corbyn is doing a surprisingly good job,He is close to the 36% that Blair got in 2005.Theresa Has Clearly led a Very Weak Campaign(atleast i think like that)and the Tories are now clearly nervous and they have ramped up their attack strategy.
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Re: UK General Election, 2017

Postby jamescfm » Mon May 22, 2017 5:21 pm

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Re: UK General Election, 2017

Postby Pragma » Mon May 22, 2017 6:57 pm

jamescfm wrote:
QV73 wrote:Probably, but still he's seen as weak and not Prime Minister material because he, among other things: refuses to entertain the idea of pressing the button

Why is it weak to not want to murder hundreds of millions of people?

I'm not talking about 'wanting' to do it. Nobody wants it to happen. The thing is what about when the UK is about to be attacked by a major power? There's no way to negotiate sometimes.

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QV73 wrote:refuses to accept responsibility for protecting the Falklands

It seems the actual residents of the Falklands disagree with you on this, I'm sure they're just loonie leftie terrorist sympathisers.

I wasn't talking about him being a threat. It's just how far he'll go to protect the Falklands I'm thinking about. 99.98% of residents voted to remain British,

jamescfm wrote:
QV73 wrote:refuses to stake out that the UK should stay together

Desperately trying to figure out what this even means...

I don't think he really cares about the UK staying united. He supports a united Ireland, for example.

jamescfm wrote:
QV73 wrote:deflects to 'negotiation' whenever asked a foreign policy question (you can't negotiate with ISIS)

Bomb first, talk later has been such an effective strategy for the West. What we should do is continue with our current strategy because it's been really successful.

Not at all. Negotiations should go first. But sometimes negotiations aren't feasible. Like with terrorists.

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QV73 wrote:scaremongers with the NHS then preaches about scaremongering with immigration

Given that high immigration is much less likely to lead to LITERAL DEATH than a woefully underfunded health service, I think the 'scaremongering' is completely warranted.

What makes his claims of NHS ruination any more real than the ones in the 80s which turned out to be wrong?

jamescfm wrote:
QV73 wrote:wants to damage our environment by reopening coal mines which would go bust almost immediately, while acting disgusted at people who going hunting

CITATION PLEASE

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor ... yn-9817411

jamescfm wrote:
QV73 wrote:takes Tory manifesto pledges like the triple lock and masquerades them as his own

You know what, you're right. Parties should only be allowed to support policies if they came up with them. Therefore, I expect that the Tory manifesto contains pledges to reverse the Equal Pay Act, the Freedom of Information Act and the Human Rights Act; criminalise homosexuality; bring back the death penalty; abolish the NHS and the National Minimum Wage and destroy Milton Keynes. Seems reasonable.

I'm not against a party supporting another party's proposal, but not when they act as if they came up with it.

jamescfm wrote:
QV73 wrote:wants rent controls, which have never worked

We haven't had rent controls for thirty years, how is it pertinent to say they've never worked? I have mixed feelings on rent controls since I get the argument that they can lead to a reduction in the supply of rented accommodation. However, Corbyn's pledge to build 500,000 council houses should help to deal with this problem significantly.

Well there we see one of his main issues. He's 'pledged' to do this but we don't know if he will.

jamescfm wrote:
QV73 wrote:chose a buffoon for Shadow Home Secretary
QV73 wrote:dresses like a homeless person
QV73 wrote:has his stooges paint the conservatives as some kind of sadistic reptilian monsters
QV73 wrote:he has a shadow chancellor who attends communist rallies, idolizes Marx, Trotsky and Lenin and called on employment minister Esther McVey to be lynched but then never didn't apologized. He'd just not a good leader.

I threw these in together since they're pretty much all nonsense, baseless character attacks.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/w ... 20a6e955c1
http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/02/the-pictu ... e-6609968/

jamescfm wrote:This entire comment, for me, highlights perfectly how ignorant and nonsensical the general public's objection to Corbyn is. There was one actual policy critique: on rent controls, the rest was drivel. Even if I were to concede that price caps aren't an effective solution to higher prices, that wouldn't be an argument for supporting the Tories because their manifesto contains a price cap for energy prices anyway! The fact is that Corbyn might not be a great Prime Minister but he would certainly be better than May who:
-has U-turned on the EU, a general election, National Insurance increases, workers on boards, grammar schools and social care
-pushed the most invasive policies on civil liberties in the developed world
-won't prioritise addressing what has become a structural budget deficit
-will not seek to retain membership of the single market, crucial for many UK small businesses


I am no fan of May. I find her to be a bad leader. But I don't want Diane Abbot as my home secretary, or a Prime Minister I don't believe thinks his own country should exist.

And to retain membership of the single market you need to also agree to loads of term of actual EU membership. It's a way of staying under their control.
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Re: UK General Election, 2017

Postby jamescfm » Thu May 25, 2017 9:18 pm

Conservative lead now cut to 5% according to YouGov.
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Re: UK General Election, 2017

Postby Pragma » Fri May 26, 2017 10:42 am

jamescfm wrote:Conservative lead now cut to 5% according to YouGov.


Definitely a reason for happiness in the Labour camp - but the polls were very wrong last time and in 2010, and in 1992. Plus, it may be a one-off.
And need I mention Brexit polling? And Trump?
There's also a few things that've happened very recently which may throw the polls into a bit of chaos. We'll have to see.
I won't deny that this is a bad sign for May, though.
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Re: UK General Election, 2017

Postby jamescfm » Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:59 am

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Re: UK General Election, 2017

Postby Reddy » Fri Jun 09, 2017 2:38 pm

Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. :o
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Re: UK General Election, 2017

Postby TheTsar » Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:56 pm

jamescfm wrote:I'm not suggesting that I don't think May will win a landslide- I'm absolutely certain she will...


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