They have to. No matter how afraid of conflict the noncomformist churches are nowaydays, there are simply no tangible group voters who social justice or open borders who want to vote for anything that's associated with the name of Christ. Maybe 50 years ago, but not now. My closest family is left-wing and most would rather vote for any party except SD before KD. I actually reflected over that back in 2010 when KD was supporting the Tories in the UK election... ehh but the Tories are probably closer to SD if you only talk about policies that is (not history/heritage).Hrafn wrote:I think KD is more likely to become SD-lite than M is.
I was a bit surprised honestly, given how it contradicts the party's development for the last three or more years, but it probably wouldn't be a good strategy to just accept a centre-right government without demanding something either, of course.Hrafn wrote:Funnily enough, Åkesson has now officially declared that SD and S are more natural partners than SD and M. Well, someone would first have to assassinate Löfven then
Hrafn wrote:Åkesson also mentioned on the congress that they will campaign for repatriation. Very good. It might make them sound like "nazis" and scare off some Svensson-types for now, but in the long run the shifting of the centre will make such ideas mainstream. SD should keep going more hardline.
Tbh... unless he or you or whoever are suggesting repatriation based on ethnicity, saying that there's need for repatriation isn't that 'radical'. During the so-called refugee crisis we had like 50% going underground immediately. We have no idea who we have inside our borders... well one of them killed four people last year (I was quite close when it happened... had to walk through the entire city from my job...).
Fully agree, and oddly enough it's all based on lies or based on how things were in the post-WWII era when Sweden wasn't in ruins because we had bended over to Hitler. A close family member just called me complaining about how getting an appointment this week for re-bandaging a wound (that can risk getting infected if done wrong) after a tumour operation wouldn't be possible until next Tuesday. In Stockholm. The capital. Our public services are a good example of corporatism rather than socialism, and ironically even the US. public sector might be more humane in some instances since they have food stamps for those at the absolute bottom, to get welfare over here you have to apply for jobs for a month first (not that demanding people on welfare searching for jobs isn't somewhat sensible ofc).sylence wrote:The swedes do not take to an extrovert, manifest, parading nationalism, but in their stubborn silent way are probably the most nationalistic people in the world.
Another huge irony are the Orwellian reports showing that we are "corruption-free". Well, what would be called corruption in other countries is legal in Sweden - the Moderate party leader for instance, got exclusive apartment contracts twice through personal friends, one from a charity that's supposed to have those available for abused women and their children (!) and the other from a company he'd just sold a lot of municipal apartments to, back when he was responsible for social affairs here in Stockholm city. And no one cares. In other countries people would have demanded his head on a plate. Here's a good movie on the subject of Sweden's rampant corruption (English Subs):
I agree to an extent, but to be fair - the SD nowadays is more centre-right economically nowadays, especially if you compare it with its sister parties in Denmark and Finland. I think it's destined to eventually become somewhat integrated into the rest of the centre-right. Quite a few are taking about Paula Bieler (who is of Polish-Jewish descent) as the potential next party leader, and she seems pretty libertarian imho, apart from being pro-life. Might well be a place for another more radical party in the lines of Front National soon. Basically you have two sorts of anti-immigration voters: former centre-right people who wanna defend classical liberal and socially conservative values, and former social democrats who want to protect the welfare state for the native Swedes. They don't quite fit into the same party.. although at the moment one might argue that toughening up restrictions on immigration might accomplish both to an extent.Sd is an update of the Swedish ideology - Social democracy - an update that takes account of the reality of the present world. An ambition not to speak nonsense, but to realize real circumstances and limitations.
There is the old SD and the new humbled down Sd.
I'd rather argue that Swedes, in a tradition probably dating back to the Lutheran fundamentalism of the 16'th century which sort of "morphed" into the Social democratic welfare state, are notoriously conformist and afraid of conflict, and change their opinions as fast as their leaders do. People over here are also notoriously afraid of simply talking to each other or expressing any kind of feelings... that's why I, if I was a millionary, I'd probably go enjoy myself in Italy or Croatia or whatever... (Israel could be a good candidate too btw)Why do these misfit boys (for the original Sd:er is a boy) love Sweden so much? Their love is not requited.
They apparently had the capacity to think for themselves in school etc, so they could not just bleat with the flock. They found the cracks and the nonsense in the PC-talk, so they didn't get good grades, could not submit to it.
So how in the hell did they get the idea that the answer to this is to - Love Sweden?
So these boys could think, but it didn't prevent them from committing themselves to a paradox. Sd loves Sweden. Sweden hates Sd.
I would never commit myself to courting a lady for 20 years, just getting spat on and railed at, and called a loser, and evil, and in the end she just takes my money (accepts my ideas!), and continues to despise me.
In the end one must always adapt to reality. The same PC-nonsense cannot go on forever, must reach a cliff, and reinterpret its formulas.
And so it has, and we have seen how easy it is for the old SD just to transform themselves over a night and use the same policies as they the day before branded as racism and nazism. The swedes are so fatuous, they can do such tricks without a sense of contradiction and dishonour.
The sedate, compulsory braggery will continue. That is permanent.
Alright - I paint a much simplified picture, for sure. But one must start somewhere saying something about these things, and then one must stop somewhere, and now I have written long enough - just as a reflection upon that first sentence.
I think there's quite a big danger calling anything to the right of the U.S. Democrats fascism or nazism - in that people stop taking such accusations seriously after a while. You can see this quite clearly in some facebook groups and such, when confronting people linking to actual white supremacist or anti-Semitic stuff, you might get replies like "but the P. C. people say the same about SD as well". The supposed return of the actual far-right becomes like a self-fulfilling prophecy.