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Triviality

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:06 pm
by GreekIdiot
Okay, and please beware, don't make this too scientific, what do you think about the creation of the universe?

(I just miss the good old off-topic debates...sorry I couldn't restrain myself)

Anyway, I believe that the concept of time and space is a mere illusion in the human logic. Just as the objects and faces and everything is the result of matter in the micro world , so is the universe and its existence outside human definitions. Even the mere characterization of "existence" is false to my mind.

In simple words, the universe has always and will always exist, outside the definition of time and space, of creation and deletion, of existence and vagueness. No God created anything, no God exists. By the way, there is no soul we are purely mad and go back straight there when we die. So basically my theory of death and universe coincide, since both lack the definition of time and existence. When you die, it's like going to sleep but you never wake up. No dreams, no existence.

edit: YAY 100 POSTS! :lol:

Re: Triviality

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:20 pm
by Darvian
Last time I touched this topic, I gave people headaches...I'll watch this time.

Re: Triviality

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:21 pm
by GreekIdiot
Darvian wrote:Last time I touched this topic, I gave people headaches...I'll watch this time.


No no no you ain't getting away with it. Speak. Or type.

Re: Triviality

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:39 pm
by Darvian
Sleep first, then I'll work on it. Fair enough? :shock:

Re: Triviality

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:44 am
by GreekIdiot
I slept very nicely Darvian and I think your inadequacy at doing what you previously promised is certified. :P (jk)

Re: Triviality

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:25 am
by Mr.Yankees
George S.K wrote:Okay, and please beware, don't make this too scientific, what do you think about the creation of the universe?

(I just miss the good old off-topic debates...sorry I couldn't restrain myself)

Anyway, I believe that the concept of time and space is a mere illusion in the human logic. Just as the objects and faces and everything is the result of matter in the micro world , so is the universe and its existence outside human definitions. Even the mere characterization of "existence" is false to my mind.

In simple words, the universe has always and will always exist, outside the definition of time and space, of creation and deletion, of existence and vagueness. No God created anything, no God exists. By the way, there is no soul we are purely mad and go back straight there when we die. So basically my theory of death and universe coincide, since both lack the definition of time and existence. When you die, it's like going to sleep but you never wake up. No dreams, no existence.

edit: YAY 100 POSTS! :lol:


"I created the universe and apparently I messed up with some of my human models" God's quote from when I talked to him last night.

Re: Triviality

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:07 am
by Darvian
George S.K wrote:I slept very nicely Darvian and I think your inadequacy at doing what you previously promised is certified. :P (jk)


HAHA! I'm sorry, I've had way to much on my plate today. I will deliver though, just for you George!

Re: Triviality

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:04 pm
by TPD
You know, even the Bible was inherently right when it said "Dust you were born, and to dust you will return.". It's basically a substantial part of what the universe is made of.

Re: Triviality

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:13 pm
by Gesar
TPD wrote:You know, even the Bible was inherently right when it said "Dust you were born, and to dust you will return.". It's basically a substantial part of what the universe is made of.

Like, whoa. Seriously. Whoa.

Re: Triviality

PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:57 am
by Amazeroth
@George:

Is your belief based on rational analysation and trying to grasp what is possible to be understood by humans, or does it come from a vague feeling?