Requests: Cultural Protocols - CPs

[Auditorii]

Cultural Protocol update for Aldegar: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=688792
Differences from current version:

* removed the various Iranian minorities (Kurds, Pashtun, Baloch) that are now present in Majatra;
* added a Javanese and a Parsi ethnic group, with 11% and 9% of the population, respectively;
* separated Zamanism from Yazdism as a distinct religion;
* removed Hamekhodaism and Rowshanism;
* minor changes in religion percentages, and added denomination percentages for Daenism;
* clarified that Tajik is the official variety of Persian used in Aldegar.

Motivation behind these changes:
* The Iranian minorities are already present elsewhere;
* Parsis are a relevant RL culture that has often been indirectly used for RP in Aldegar, this makes them an official and relatively small minority; their Zoroastrian religion IRL and Persian-influenced culture makes them fit comfortably in Aldegar;
* The Javanese fit well on the island of Somasi which they now share with the Parsis, and offer a nice transition from their Indo-Persian culture to the Filipinos in Tukarali;
* Justification for religion changes the same as for the previous attempt;
* Tajik is on Google Translate and is easy to use. It's also been explicitly RPd in Aldegar for some time, and it was recently RPd as the sole official language of the nation.

I will review and I'll let you know my thoughts.

[gokustan]

Cultural protocol update for Jakania: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=689200

Differences from the current version:

Turjak (Turkish) is designated as the sole official language, while Kalopian (Greek) and Majatran (Arabic) are recognised as minority languages.

[Auditorii]

Cultural protocol update for Jakania: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=689200

Differences from the current version:

Turjak (Turkish) is designated as the sole official language, while Kalopian (Greek) and Majatran (Arabic) are recognised as minority languages.

I'm not quite sure that the change in the language status makes much sense, is there reason to support such a change?

[Auditorii]

Cultural Protocol update for Aldegar: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=688792
Differences from current version:

* removed the various Iranian minorities (Kurds, Pashtun, Baloch) that are now present in Majatra;
* added a Javanese and a Parsi ethnic group, with 11% and 9% of the population, respectively;
* separated Zamanism from Yazdism as a distinct religion;
* removed Hamekhodaism and Rowshanism;
* minor changes in religion percentages, and added denomination percentages for Daenism;
* clarified that Tajik is the official variety of Persian used in Aldegar.

Motivation behind these changes:
* The Iranian minorities are already present elsewhere;
* Parsis are a relevant RL culture that has often been indirectly used for RP in Aldegar, this makes them an official and relatively small minority; their Zoroastrian religion IRL and Persian-influenced culture makes them fit comfortably in Aldegar;
* The Javanese fit well on the island of Somasi which they now share with the Parsis, and offer a nice transition from their Indo-Persian culture to the Filipinos in Tukarali;
* Justification for religion changes the same as for the previous attempt;
* Tajik is on Google Translate and is easy to use. It's also been explicitly RPd in Aldegar for some time, and it was recently RPd as the sole official language of the nation.

While I prefer this over the previous attempted changes, I still have an issue with the usage of Cyrillic and the sudden shift towards Aldegar being a Deltarian colony when Aldegar previously possessed significant influence in pre-game historical affairs.

[gokustan]

Cultural protocol update for Jakania: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=689200

Differences from the current version:

Turjak (Turkish) is designated as the sole official language, while Kalopian (Greek) and Majatran (Arabic) are recognised as minority languages.

I'm not quite sure that the change in the language status makes much sense, is there reason to support such a change?

From what I've seen, only Turkish is used concerning Jakania wiki pages and role-play laws, even before I started playing in Jakania. For example, only Turkish translation of the country name is stated on Jakania page. Names of public offices or notable organisations are also written in only Turkish. The change is also consistent with the nationalist policies of my current party, like this bill and news article.

[Polites]

Cultural Protocol update for Aldegar: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=688792
Differences from current version:

* removed the various Iranian minorities (Kurds, Pashtun, Baloch) that are now present in Majatra;
* added a Javanese and a Parsi ethnic group, with 11% and 9% of the population, respectively;
* separated Zamanism from Yazdism as a distinct religion;
* removed Hamekhodaism and Rowshanism;
* minor changes in religion percentages, and added denomination percentages for Daenism;
* clarified that Tajik is the official variety of Persian used in Aldegar.

Motivation behind these changes:
* The Iranian minorities are already present elsewhere;
* Parsis are a relevant RL culture that has often been indirectly used for RP in Aldegar, this makes them an official and relatively small minority; their Zoroastrian religion IRL and Persian-influenced culture makes them fit comfortably in Aldegar;
* The Javanese fit well on the island of Somasi which they now share with the Parsis, and offer a nice transition from their Indo-Persian culture to the Filipinos in Tukarali;
* Justification for religion changes the same as for the previous attempt;
* Tajik is on Google Translate and is easy to use. It's also been explicitly RPd in Aldegar for some time, and it was recently RPd as the sole official language of the nation.

While I prefer this over the previous attempted changes, I still have an issue with the usage of Cyrillic and the sudden shift towards Aldegar being a Deltarian colony when Aldegar previously possessed significant influence in pre-game historical affairs.

My update does not introduce Cyrillic though, it's already mentioned in the current cultural protocol.

I can omit Aldegar having been a Deltarian colony from the Cultural Protocol, though I'm not sure I understand the objection. Why can't Aldegar have been a Deltarian colony? If it's too much of a retcon, I can point out it's in line with the broader history of Seleya, which includes Deltarian colonies and outposts. Everything else remains the same in Aldegar's history. It's only there to justify the use of Cyrillic, which has already been established as one of the alternative scripts used to write the Aldegarian language.

Apart from these objections is everything else in this update acceptable?

[jamescfm]

Polites, the version of the cultural protocol that you referenced in your original post was passed and approved in January 2021 but there was another update in April 2021. Although the January version references Cyrillic, I removed the reference in the April version. In the current version of the cultural protocol, it specifies a modified Latin script. In hindsight, I think the changes I made might have created as much confusion as they resolved.

[Polites]

Polites, the version of the cultural protocol that you referenced in your original post was passed and approved in January 2021 but there was another update in April 2021. Although the January version references Cyrillic, I removed the reference in the April version. In the current version of the cultural protocol, it specifies a modified Latin script. In hindsight, I think the changes I made might have created as much confusion as they resolved.

Oh I missed that, I was going off of what is posted on Aldegar's nation page.

The April 2021 update actually makes my case easier, as it already established Tajik as the dominant language, something which my own update tries to do.

Given that there is now some RP regarding the use of Cyrillic and the Deltarian colonial period has been seamlessly introduced to the wiki pages, I'm hoping there's no other objection to the CP update.

Supporting RP:
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1852&p=183923&hilit=deltarian#p183923
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1852&p=183923&hilit=deltarian#p183930

Supporting wikia changes:
https://particracy.fandom.com/wiki/Hist ... (1512-2042)
https://particracy.fandom.com/wiki/Shahnazid_dynasty
https://particracy.fandom.com/wiki/List ... id_Dynasty
https://particracy.fandom.com/wiki/North_Seleyan_Wars (on the map)

[Auditorii]

I don’t mind using Tajik, though it’s different enough from regular Persian/Farsi, I’m willing to use it for ease of access. I maintain though that it should strictly be Tajik with Latin alphabet and no Cyrillic.

[Polites]

New proposed Cultural Protocol update for Aldegar: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=689574

This time it was built with the correct current version of the Cultural Protocol in mind, the one from April 2021 (http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=642699).

Ethnic and religion changes are the same as in the previous attempt, and the justification is the same.

This update now makes no mention of Deltarian colonial rule or the Cyrillic script. It only recognizes Tajik as the main language in Aldegar, something already introduced by the most recent version of the Cultural Protocol (the one from April 2021). It makes no mention regarding the script used to write the language, giving players freedom in that regard.