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Re: Cultural Protocol Queries (Approvals/Violations/Open)

Postby jamescfm » Mon Jun 26, 2023 4:05 pm

http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=690365

Cultural protocol update for Cildania. The only notable change from the current cultural protocol is the clarification that the Qildari group is influenced by Phoenician culture. Among the minor changes: a reduction in Yeudism (Judaism) to match the percentage of ethnic Yeudi (Jewish) people, and clarification about the real-life equivalents of the two Hosian (Christian) churches.
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Re: Cultural Protocol Queries (Approvals/Violations/Open)

Postby Auditorii » Mon Jun 26, 2023 4:38 pm

jamescfm wrote:http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=690365

Cultural protocol update for Cildania. The only notable change from the current cultural protocol is the clarification that the Qildari group is influenced by Phoenician culture. Among the minor changes: a reduction in Yeudism (Judaism) to match the percentage of ethnic Yeudi (Jewish) people, and clarification about the real-life equivalents of the two Hosian (Christian) churches.


I assume “Jess” is meant to be Jews? Otherwise I’ll start the 48 hour timer.
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Re: Cultural Protocol Queries (Approvals/Violations/Open)

Postby jamescfm » Mon Jun 26, 2023 4:55 pm

Auditorii wrote:
jamescfm wrote:http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=690365

Cultural protocol update for Cildania. The only notable change from the current cultural protocol is the clarification that the Qildari group is influenced by Phoenician culture. Among the minor changes: a reduction in Yeudism (Judaism) to match the percentage of ethnic Yeudi (Jewish) people, and clarification about the real-life equivalents of the two Hosian (Christian) churches.


I assume “Jess” is meant to be Jews? Otherwise I’ll start the 48 hour timer.

Yes, sorry. I only spotted the typo after I had moved the bill to a vote. If the bill is passed, I will correct it in the version posted in the debate section.
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Re: Cultural Protocol Queries (Approvals/Violations/Open)

Postby jamescfm » Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:24 pm

Could the updated cultural protocol for Luthori be added to the Cultural Protocols Index, please?

Here is the link: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=689879
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Re: Cultural Protocol Queries (Approvals/Violations/Open)

Postby Auditorii » Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:25 pm

Updated.
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Re: Cultural Protocol Queries (Approvals/Violations/Open)

Postby jamescfm » Thu Jun 29, 2023 2:23 pm

Auditorii wrote:
jamescfm wrote:http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=690365

Cultural protocol update for Cildania. The only notable change from the current cultural protocol is the clarification that the Qildari group is influenced by Phoenician culture. Among the minor changes: a reduction in Yeudism (Judaism) to match the percentage of ethnic Yeudi (Jewish) people, and clarification about the real-life equivalents of the two Hosian (Christian) churches.


I assume “Jess” is meant to be Jews? Otherwise I’ll start the 48 hour timer.

48 hours have passed. Is this approved?
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Re: Cultural Protocol Queries (Approvals/Violations/Open)

Postby Auditorii » Thu Jun 29, 2023 4:00 pm

Indeed, you know the procedure. Copy of this approval in a copy in the bills under debate section.
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Re: Cultural Protocol Queries (Approvals/Violations/Open)

Postby beifengxiaoxiao » Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:35 am

Passed proposal for Dankuk's new Cultural Protocols (dear god what an unfortunate acronym):
http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=689631

Current Protocols in effect:
http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=645578

Myung (http://classic.particracy.net/viewparty ... tyid=45907) and I (http://classic.particracy.net/viewparty ... tyid=45489) are jointly proposing a new protocol for Dankuk, the current one dates from the 4900s. The main change is the HISTORY section, which we attempted to fill in with more detail and revisions to the previous section, which was more vague. Most notably, we have drawn comparison between the prehistoric Proto-Dan cultures and the real-life Tungusic peoples. This is based off of the real life theories that ethnic Koreans and some of their indigenous traditions have Siberian roots. As the Proto-Dan people are all extinct or absorbed into the modern Kyo ethnicity, this is a purely historical change that will do little to affect modern RP.

Ethnicity has also shifted.

Kyo: 41% > 53% (+12%)
Draniano: 34% > 31% (-3%)
Draddwyr: 17% > 10% (-7%)
Various others: 8% > 6% (-2%)

We feel as if the shift in Kyo ethnicity is justified given the main emphasis on them in the Dankuk community's RP, as well as the 70-year long fascist DNWA government. Regarding the latter, there was a recent epoch of Dankuk's history in which a fascist regime, the Dankukin National Worker's Association (DNWA) took over the country and began widespread ethnic cleansing. They began a one-child policy and reeducation policy on minorities, imported 1,000,000 Kyo people to Dankuk, began widespread work and extermination camps for ethnic minorities, and essentially continued those extremely discriminatory policies (examples here, here, here, here, here, here, etc.) into the 5270s, when they were still spreading state propaganda about the Kyo race. This is on top of the fact that, since 4949, RP in Dankuk has tended to heavily gravitate towards Kyo people. There was additionally a similar government that sought ethnic cleansing, albeit under religious zealotry instead. They proposed a CP change earlier that was rejected, but notably in the rejection post moderation conceded that there was likely a Kyo population growth - rejection appeared to be on the grounds of poor sourcing and extreme religious changes instead. The prominence of multiple Kyo-majority and anti-minority measures testifies to the consistency of relative Kyo population growth, confirming in our view that these were not isolated incidents but the most dramatic of events in what has been a more general trend towards a larger Kyo proportion of the population, justifying the numbers presented in the new Protocol proposal. (Besides the Sindo-Daenist Theocracy and Fascist Dictatorship, it should be noted that the RP of both players Jrandle8 and NDH04, prominent posters in-between the current CP's approval and the present day, dealt heavily with emphasis on the Kyo population/culture and individuals.) In regards to the Draniano shift, we feel that they should remain about one third of the Dankukian population given their general usage by the community. They have not been as prominent as the Kyo, but they remain frequently mentioned and RPed with.

Whilst the Draddwyr shift is sizable, we believe it makes more sense than the current given 17% statistic. Draddwyr people have (recently, since the last CP of in-game year 4949) been contemporarily portrayed as a small and secluded minority in Dankuk without a large population or significant voice in national affairs. The last forum post in Dankuk explicitly mentioning Draddwyr people before the player that controlled the DNWA (theonewhoknocks) started his RP was written on Sun Jul 18, 2021 (viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7223&p=174659&hilit=draddwyr#p174659 , game year 4969); during that wide gap of time on the thread, countless other allusions were made to the Kyo and Draniano peoples, demonstrating their larger prominence in Dankuk's culture and the PT community's conception of the nation. The genocidal regime's ethnic cleansing policies would have exacerbated this historical tendency.

Other changes remain miniscule, with religion being practically untouched. Whilst there was an apparent spike in Sindo-Daenism under an old government, we feel as if the later changes in regime (liberal democracy, then ~70 years of atheist fascism) would have killed this momentum due to the lack of RP in that regard.
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Re: Cultural Protocol Queries (Approvals/Violations/Open)

Postby Polites » Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:25 pm

I'm presenting both of these here because they are related to each other.

Cultural Protocol update for Deltaria: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=690172 (current version: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=634572)
Cultural Protocol update for Kundrati: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=690941 (current version: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=643017)

The logic behind these cultural protocol changes is that, with the introduction of South Slavic to Kundrati in May last year, it is harder to justify the Czech and Slovak cultures in Deltaria. The South Slavic group is better suited to Deltaria's cultural context and its history, while Balkan cultures are hard to justify in Kundrati, when all other Balkan groups are in Majatra.

Although Deltaria has taken inspiration from RL Czech and Slovak cultures, it has also used South Slavic and Russian cultural influences, due to its character as a sort of origin of all Delic cultures. Kundrati, meanwhile, has not used any cultural elements that are specifically and uniquely South Slavic, but has of course used the languages for character, region, and city names.

In order to justify this shift and maintain continuity with past RP, the Kundrati update indicates that Deltaria's cultural influence and the relatively recent rise of Delic nationalism in Kundrati have caused the latter to use Deltaria's language as a language of prestige. In Deltaria's case this could just be justified due to Deltarian culture indirectly encompassing all other Slavic cultures.

Specific changes for each cultural protocol:

In Deltaria:

* Daralian and Alazindian changed from Slovak and Czech to Slovene and Croatian, respectively;
* Dissuwan (now Disuvan) changed from Hungarian to Bulgarian - because Hungarians are present in Egelion, and the background history is the same (Jelbic group assimilated into Delic culture);
* Other ethnic groups simplified; Akigans, Rodshyans, Kuzakis, and other small ethnic groups removed entirely; Macedonians added; Disuvans moved under Delic umbrella;
* Tokundians and Ushalandans increased;
* the specific percentages of Delic groups changed around a bit;
* decline in TPC and increase in irreligion due to the six decades of religion ban.

In Kundrati:

* small decrease in Delic and increase in Lurrian due to Lurrian cultural revival;
* Delic groups simplified and reduced to three;
* Skitati renamed as Skitian and redefined as Czech, and Zergone(se) redefined as Slovak;
* small Sorbian group introduced;
* religion streamlined and clarified (TPC removed due to lack of history and presence in Kundrati, atheist and agnostic grouped together, Hussite and Calvinist groups added).
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Re: Cultural Protocol Queries (Approvals/Violations/Open)

Postby TRA » Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:23 am

If you have the time, some quick feedback on whether this is acceptable or not will be appreciated http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=691070
Inspired a bit by Kafuristan's http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill. ... lid=627810
Some work remains to be done on Other ethnicities, of course, and passing the bill.
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