Narikaton und Darnussia Negotiations with Luthori

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Re: Narikaton und Darnussia Negotiations with Luthori

Postby lewiselder1 » Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:41 pm

Negotiations Continue

James Stinson has been invited to Merenbürg, the capital of the Bundesrepublik to continue negotiations. With the foundations laid out, negotiations will now likely turn to specifics and deal with government feedback.
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Re: Narikaton und Darnussia Negotiations with Luthori

Postby Cirith » Tue Jul 04, 2017 10:11 pm

We accept the invitation and look forward to meeting you in Merenburg.

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Luthori Foreign Secretary
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Re: Narikaton und Darnussia Negotiations with Luthori

Postby lewiselder1 » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:47 pm

In the Bundesrepublik

Wonderful to meet you in our country, James, I hope you are liking it. Feel free to tour any parts of the city you wish. How have you been? Would you like some tea?

I'd like to start by simply saying, as Bundeskanzler, that I offer all security measures desired. If you feel insecure, simply ask -- we will supply. I don't mean to begin with a damp atmosphere, but with the recent rise of the nationalists I'd just like to ensure you feel safe. Of course, most people support the measures here and aren't a risk -- but I just want to make sure you're feeling okay.

I'd like to introduce Louis Vieweg, the new Minister for Trade and Industry. He'll be joining us for now. In addition, my deputy negotiator Adler Schmidt also now holds the Ministry of Finance. Obviously, I have also become Bundeskanzler recently. Sadly, the Minister for Foreign Affairs couldn't make it today, but I'm aware of their views -- alongside those of the rest of the cabinet.

How were the current plans received back in Luthoria? We've received pretty positive feedback. They've requested more detail in the proposals, which we shall obviously endeavor to secure now we have the foundations laid out.

Oh -- speaking of plans... Now that the government has changed in the Bundesrepublik, we are certainly more open to de-militarization of the Wall. I'd have to speak to the Minister for Defence, but I think we could begin to reduce numbers or implement a joint exercise and recreational activity scheme as soon as possible without support from the Bundestag or needing to put this in the overall agreement. I am not privy to the concerns of my predecessor, and I'm sure some action on this front could begin to move forward before we reach a final agreement perhaps?

Of course, we'd need your government to be of the same mind set.

I'm sure this period of negotiations shall be much shorter -- unless you have any major suggestions, we should just address the specifics or any changes from the previous agreement?

Perhaps the only major talking point I'd like to discuss is with regards to nuclear weaponry... but we can return to this later.

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Re: Narikaton und Darnussia Negotiations with Luthori

Postby Cirith » Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:07 pm

Alexander, it is a pleasure to be here. I have been to see the Serene Palace and the House of the Nobles. I would love some coffee if you have it, milk and 3 sugars please.

Rest assured, I feel completely at ease. I have already shared some communication with Präsident Cedrik II von Thaller, he was full of bluster about stopping these negotiations and removing the Bundesrepublik from the Artanian Union, it was all rather predictable. We are hopeful that cooler heads will prevail, that we will have peace and de-militarisation between our nations and that the Bundesrepublik will join the Artanian Development Organisation by voting for the Artanian Humanitarian Aid and Social Development Treaty your Bundestag is debating.

It is a pleasure to meet Louis and to see Alder once again, of course i have brought Charley and Kendra with me.

My Government has given me full backing for the plans, and the Partiots House has raised no objections, I believe we have the start of an Accord here.

On the Wall... I could certainly convince the MoD to participate in joint recreational activities next year, and look to undertake some form of joint exercise in the next 2 or 3. We would need to pass a bill in the House to reduce numbers, but we are confident we could get this passed now too. The RCP and myself would be in favour at least.

Lets begin to lay the foundations of our Accord then, since we know the outline from our talks in Fort William.

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Re: Narikaton und Darnussia Negotiations with Luthori

Postby lewiselder1 » Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:34 pm

Clear minds will prevail, especially with the warnings against the TE entering government from no less than two nations, one threatening war. Entering government with them would be suicidal.

I suppose then we should begin with the first details of our agreement. We can return to The Wall shortly -- I could attempt to begin proceedings for joint exercises once your government --

Alexander Feigenbaum
Bundeskanzler
LP Leader
Lead Negotiator


An aide moves to speak to the Bundeskanzler privately. Then, after a moment...

Mr. Stinson, we shall have to cut this short. I'm afraid we have a major armed protest on our hands and I have to respond. Please stay here for the moment, the current security will keep you safe and an armed escort will be ready to take you to safety in a few minutes. We shall have to return to this in a few days perhaps -- very sorry about this.

Alexander Feigenbaum
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Lead Negotiator


He leaves with his security and aides. The other ministers remain with Stinson and the Luthori team to stay with the security team, which arrives shortly thereafter and escorts all to a secure area.
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Re: Narikaton und Darnussia Negotiations with Luthori

Postby lewiselder1 » Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:58 am

Some time later...

Mr. Stinson, my apologies. Police are dealing with the matter with intelligence services and many have been charged. This is really quite a difficult time for this nation... still, these negotiations are a bright beacon of hope.

How are you? Did you get to safety? Probably unnecessary really, but we had to be sure.

As I was saying, we can put the suggestions on the Wall to the Bundestag immediately and begin a plan for joint exercises and possibly demilitarisation immediately if your government agrees.

With regards to the finer details of our agreement, where should you like to begin?

We would only have one additional major point of discussion. If we were to declare a formal treaty, would you be willing as a nuclear nation to offer us a guarantee of protection as an ally from nuclear attacks? A big ask, I know, but as a non-nuclear nation ourselves we are under particular threat.

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Re: Narikaton und Darnussia Negotiations with Luthori

Postby Cirith » Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:20 am

Alexander, it was all a blur, being rushed to a Guest House and secured for a few days, it was nice to see protection of a guest at the forefront of a hosts mind.

Now, on to business. The Luthori MoD are considering the exercises and I await confirmation from them that they wish to participate. I foresee no issues here.

As for de-militarisation, I am beginning to think we should move towards this through these joint exercises and a reduction in armed forces at the Wall itself.

I would like to begin on immigration and trade if you are willing?

As for the nuclear question... I will think on what you have said and talk with my Government.

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Re: Narikaton und Darnussia Negotiations with Luthori

Postby lewiselder1 » Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:47 am

Good, good.

Oh -- also, welcome to the new Foreign Affairs Minister, Ann-Katrin Staebler, Deputy Leader of this party.

I agree with regards to the Wall. I shall contact the MoD and await further confirmation.

I thank you for considering the nuclear question. This is a big ask, I am aware, but -- he who does not ask does not get.

I am perfectly willing to begin on immigration and trade! Louis?

Alexander Feigenbaum
Bundeskanzler
LP Leader
Lead Negotiator


Yes. As already discussed, we would like all of this to be reciprocal, both ways.

Trade-wise there's priority status, already discussed.

In addition, I think we could allow tourists to enter without a travel Visa for a short period.. say, 10 days? And working Visas what were you thinking?

As for immigration, we would like to establish a precedent of free movement, to a degree. Perhaps with jobs? That is, if you bring a large amount of wealth or you have a confirmed job, there would only be the cursory checks required and you'd be guaranteed entry? Something along those lines. And of course for students we would accept pretty much anyone with a guaranteed place in one of our universities to stay so long as they are studying, with a legal guarantee all debts are paid off regardless of which country you enter into afterwards. In addition, if a person was to reside in one country studying they could be granted a period of time -- say six months, one year -- to get a steady job and be allowed to stay after that... that way, students can stay in either country if they so desire.

Only a rough outline, of course. Any suggestions?

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Re: Narikaton und Darnussia Negotiations with Luthori

Postby Cirith » Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:20 pm

James takes a quick phone call

The RCP now hold the Ministry of Defence, so joint exercises can proceed with your countries agreement. Minister Thomas is going to be taking immediate action on the Luthori side of the Wall, I hope you can reciprocate.

On travel Visa's, no requirement for 10 days is acceptable. On working Visa's, we wanted to look at recipricol fast track, in which they would never be rejected if the requirements for a normal Visa are met.

On immigration, we would accept this, and recommend 1 year for students to find employment after completion of their degree. I believe we could expand non-visa requirements to students and we could guarantee entry to those with a job offer or who have registered a business with the Government.

We would also seek a recipricol agreement to receive the same assistance accorded to citizens in health and social services.

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Re: Narikaton und Darnussia Negotiations with Luthori

Postby lewiselder1 » Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:52 pm

An aide passes a note to Feigenbaum.

Ah! We've just received confirmation of support form the MoD.

We will implement a plan for joint exercises as soon as possible.

With regards to demilitarisation, we could put a vote to the Bundestag. Say... from 15,000 down to 7,500 in the next 18 months gradually, with a similar agreement on your part, beginning as soon as both nations vote in agreement?

We agree with regards to everything you have said in addition.

So -- what next?

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