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Re: ¡Viva Cuba!

Postby Doc » Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:35 am

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Siggon Kristov wrote:My questions are very much on topic. This is about US foreign policy, and my questions are merely in response to things that you said. You want Cuba to be invaded, and your response to the US-sponsored terrorism is "Cry me a river" but 9-11 is a national tragedy.


9/11 is a national tragedy. I can't speak on alleged reports of US actions abroad to undermine stability or cause trouble.


What would you like to know on this topic? I wrote a dissertation and several papers on the subject. The most recently published theoretic model on destabilization as foreign policy is actually mine. It happens to analyze the development of US destabilization policy toward Cuba in 1959-1960 as a case of that more general phenomenon. I'm down to answer whatever questions you have about US-Cuba relations or US efforts to help anti-government agents overthrow their governments and put in pro-US dictators. Its nothing new, nor is it actually all that secret. The State Dept., for example, maintains FRUS, where you can go read primary documents about the creation of our Foreign Policy.
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Re: ¡Viva Cuba!

Postby Doc » Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:06 am

Radio Havana English Language Broadcast for today, 12-17-2014

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Re: ¡Viva Cuba!

Postby soysauce » Sun Dec 21, 2014 12:45 pm

Afrocentric wrote:Great...we are negotiating with Communists now. Nice going Obama. How is it a man who had the balls to depose Ghadaffi and support an invasion on Syria, can sit there and claim he wants to enter into relations with these people? Hello!!! Cuba is the enemy, not an ally.

What does that country have to offer anyway? Besides being backwards in all facets of society, they are Communist. Why engage them in the first place? Just wait for both Castros to die off and then put a US backed leader in place so we can have regime change and open that dump up to the rest of the world.

We should have kept Cuba and made it something similar to Puerto Rico...of course the posters to the left of me like this; they want to see the US become a Communist country and think Cuba is a "utopia". :lol: It's such a utopia that people escape it year after year for the good ole US of A.

What happened to "love and tolerate"? ;)
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Re: ¡Viva Cuba!

Postby Siggon Kristov » Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:19 pm

soysauce wrote:
Afrocentric wrote:Great...we are negotiating with Communists now. Nice going Obama. How is it a man who had the balls to depose Ghadaffi and support an invasion on Syria, can sit there and claim he wants to enter into relations with these people? Hello!!! Cuba is the enemy, not an ally.

What does that country have to offer anyway? Besides being backwards in all facets of society, they are Communist. Why engage them in the first place? Just wait for both Castros to die off and then put a US backed leader in place so we can have regime change and open that dump up to the rest of the world.

We should have kept Cuba and made it something similar to Puerto Rico...of course the posters to the left of me like this; they want to see the US become a Communist country and think Cuba is a "utopia". :lol: It's such a utopia that people escape it year after year for the good ole US of A.

What happened to "love and tolerate"? ;)

Are you really asking Afrocentric about love? :lol:

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Re: ¡Viva Cuba!

Postby Afrocentric » Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:26 pm

Yes, I'm a hypocrite. So is 99.9% of the world.
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Re: ¡Viva Cuba!

Postby Siggon Kristov » Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:49 pm

Afrocentric wrote:Yes, I'm a hypocrite. So is 99.9% of the world.

-sigh- Typical Capitalist. Always blame the 99%.
Any credible evidence that it's specifically 99.9% of the world's people who are hypocrites?
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Re: ¡Viva Cuba!

Postby Afrocentric » Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:32 pm

Why do you care? You're one of them, so it's not like it wouldn't matter if I presented any credible form of evidence.
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Re: ¡Viva Cuba!

Postby CanadianEh » Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:11 am

Siggon Kristov wrote:
Afrocentric wrote:Yes, I'm a hypocrite. So is 99.9% of the world.

-sigh- Typical Capitalist. Always blame the 99%.
Any credible evidence that it's specifically 99.9% of the world's people who are hypocrites?

Its human nature everyone is hypercritical even socialists who ever said Capitalists could not be nice people? Other than every Socialist on this forum.
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Re: ¡Viva Cuba!

Postby Siggon Kristov » Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:37 am

CanadianEh wrote:
Siggon Kristov wrote:
Afrocentric wrote:Yes, I'm a hypocrite. So is 99.9% of the world.

-sigh- Typical Capitalist. Always blame the 99%.
Any credible evidence that it's specifically 99.9% of the world's people who are hypocrites?

Its human nature everyone is hypercritical even socialists who ever said Capitalists could not be nice people? Other than every Socialist on this forum.

The first line was said in jest, and I wouldn't have used it on a non-American Capitalist. I know Capitalists who are nice (i.e. they have good intentions, and try to do good).
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Re: ¡Viva Cuba!

Postby Reddy » Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:58 pm

I just hope this doesn't end up like Burma. the regime there appears to have used America (and the rest of the West)'s softening towards it as a tool for legitimisation of its tyranny. A few cosmetic changes here and there but otherwise not much has changed according to my Burmese friends . I'm not saying I'm opposed to the move (I oppose economic sanctions in all circumstances even apartheid South Africa or Nazi Germany) but it has to be made in way that won't allow the Castro brothers to use it gain legitimacy.
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