Chazza wrote:But it's not just as black and white as that, I know Muslim socialists, Muslim anarchists, Muslim liberals, Muslim conservatives, Muslim everything. The reason we are dealing with fundamentalist Islam in such a way though, speaking from a British perspective, is due to the racist/imperialist policies pursued by our state and others (such as the BNP) not because these Muslims just hate us for no reason or because they are intrinsically programmed to hate non-Muslims.
Please, that is just not true. Sweden, the most liberal country in the world, has the exact same problems with them. Sweden has done everything to make them feel comfortable and welcome and they STILL turn against them. And I can assure you there are no racist or imperialist policies in Sweden. As a counter raction though, extreme right has risen in Sweden lately. What is even more terrifying in Sweden (and Finland, as we always drag behind them in everything) is the complete media silence of these problems. In Sweden, many Jews have been threatened and even attacked and when they complained about it publicly, the local government turned the blame on white supremacy movements - even though the Jewish Community made it very clear that they were threatened and harrased by muslims. I just wonder what these Jews had done to the muslims, they are not running the Racist and Imperialistic Christian Kingdom of Sweden as far as I know. Ofcourse not all muslimes were behind this thing, and there is no reason to blame them all, but it just shows the problems unfitting religious interpretations will cause in the west.
There would be no reason for them to hate us if we would just leave them alone in their desert. But we didn't. Someone messed things up and we are going to pay the price.
The entire fantasy over multiculturalism is insane. Not once in history of man has a multicultural nation survived without bloodshed. The Western Culture has merged into one, larger cultural entity that can finally exist in peace with eachother, but now we are ruining it by bringing in people who are just not compatible with our culture and ideologies. It will cause violence and bloodshed in the future. Man has not changed, and man will never change.
Sadly, to date the best way to integrate people is to strip them of their own culture, just like they did in americas with the slaves. They either abosrbed the majority culture, or created their very own from a scratch or by combining others. If you let them keep their culture that contradicts too much with the majority, they will become a problem eventually.