Sam wrote:Why the fuck do you study Italian history?
Because he's a dago.
Sam wrote:Why the fuck do you study Italian history?
Molotov wrote:Sam wrote:Why the fuck do you study Italian history?
Because he's a dago.
Amazeroth wrote:Do you have a specific case in mind, or do you really just mean the general attitude of beating politicians if there were no consequences?
Captain-Socialist wrote:I was reminded very strongly of the Fascists and the Futurists when I read that "nasty" George felt "liberated" by hitting this cretin and said he wouldn't mind attacking politicians if their where no consequences. Now, the danger here is one day the time might come when George can punch a democratically elected politician and get away with it, and then you have the basic Fascist ethic code in control.
George S.K wrote:Captain-Socialist wrote:I was reminded very strongly of the Fascists and the Futurists when I read that "nasty" George felt "liberated" by hitting this cretin and said he wouldn't mind attacking politicians if their where no consequences. Now, the danger here is one day the time might come when George can punch a democratically elected politician and get away with it, and then you have the basic Fascist ethic code in control.
I was partially joking. Of course I wouldn't harm the politician physically. And that's not fascist ethic code, it's corruption.
Captain-Socialist wrote:
And Sam, Italy invented Fascism, easily the most controversial and most attention grabbing ideology of the 20th century. Mussolini was admired by and influenced Aldolf Hitler, Winston Churchill, Franklin Roosevelt, Miguel Primo de Rivera, Francisco Franco, Juan Perón (Don't cry for me Argentinaaaa!!) Engelbert Dollfuss, Chiang Kai-shek and many many more 20th century leaders. It's also got the Roman Empire, the Renaissance, lots of wars and the glorious Risorgimento, so it's hardly insignificant in terms of getting to grips with European history.
Amazeroth wrote:Do you have a specific case in mind, or do you really just mean the general attitude of beating politicians if there were no consequences?
If I said "we all know where that attitude leads to" I'd mean the general attitude of beating politicians if there were no consequences, but as I referred to Italian history specifically I do have a specific case in mind. I was reminded very strongly of the Fascists and the Futurists when I read that "nasty" George felt "liberated" by hitting this cretin and said he wouldn't mind attacking politicians if their where no consequences. Now, the danger here is one day the time might come when George can punch a democratically elected politician and get away with it, and then you have the basic Fascist ethic code in control.
Don't get me wrong, many democratic politicians are assholes and perhaps many people do deserve a bit of corporal punishment (I often want to smash some fuckers heads against walls) but it doesn't lead anywhere apart from you getting bashed as well.
Italy did invent the Italian branch of Fascism (and the word for it worldwide), not every other ideology also labeld fascist. Mussolini has influenced Hitler, sure, but he didn't create national-socialism.
I doubt that he was admired by most of those you cite
I know that he hasn't been admired by Dollfuß (who also wasn't a fascist)
The Risorgimento wasn't glorious but pathetic, the only thing the Italians managed there (without French or Prussian help) was to conquer the Vatican
Captain-Socialist wrote: of course Fascism is not always anti-Semitic)).
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